Hi MindSonar Professionals!
You are on the forums pages. Here you can exchange ideas with other MindSonar users about Thinking Style measurement, NLP (neuro linguistic programming), benchmark profiles, NLP for business, coaching, team building, and so on.
FAQ
We are also maintaining a FAQ for the general public. If you have a question that you think is of interest to the general public, please post this in the FAQ.
Log in for the forums
[bbp-login]
Register for BB
[bbp-register]
Forums
[bbp-forum-index]
Starting a new forum
You can start a new forum. You might, for instance, be interested in exchanging business ideas with other MindSonar users internationally. People are doing great things with MindSonar that might be reproduced in other countries. Let’s say, for example, that Belgian MindSonar professionals have been helping a large bank with their marketing, profiling different target groups with MindSonar. This, by the way, they have actually done… MindSonar professionals in other countries could then offer similar services to banks in their countries. They can benefit from the experience and know-how of their Belgian colleagues and, secondly, they can show banks in their country how a MindSonar project had already been done with another bank abroad. So there you have it: synergy. And in terms of marketing: great ideas are great, but tangible reference projects are usually more convincing.
33 Comments
Sudoko is a game that encourages a specific meta-program category, namely matching and mismatching. These two are both important and should be used alternating as a conceptual strategy.
In a unit of nine boxes (a row, a column or a block) you must find out, which numbers from 1 to 9 are missing (Mi).
If several numbers in a particular unit are missing, you have to determine in which of the open boxes a certain figure belongs. For this purpose, it is necessary to look at the other two units, whom include the same open boxes, where these figures do occur (Ma). This way you can exclude certain open boxes of the first unit, until there is one left.
There are more tactics, but they all come down to Ma & Mi!
With only Ma & Mi you can´t solve it. I consider Op and It as siginificant metaprograms.
You need options to decide which box to start with and if you can´t solve that one, to jump to another part of the board.
You need to be convinced that you place the right number in the right box yourself. There is nobody else to tell you that, so It is also important.
Interesting to see how animals use certain metaprograms.
A few examples.
Tw, Vi & KI
A rattlesnake that is partially hidden in the sand with his tail mimics an insect to lure its prey.
A stonefish is camouflaged as a rock and remains motionless nearby his prey, until it comes close enough to bite.
Aw, Vi & Ki
A young deer that remains motionless in vegetation that matches his camouflage to go unnoticed for a predator.
A mother duck with camouflage colors that lies still on her nest in order to stay unnoticed for a predator.
Px & Tw
Wolves and Lions hunt together, with a task distribution, to capture large prey.
Tg, & Aw
A school of fish, such as anchovies and herring, who swim together as a whole (big fish) to deceive predators.
A herd of wildebeests or elephants, where individuals warn each other in case they notice a predator or even help each other to defend against an attack of a predator.
Px
Ants and wasps that live in colonies with a very clear division of labor:
Queen, worker, men, soldiers.
Anyway animals all have Pa and none of them have Ra as a metaprogram, as we assume that animals can’t think as we people do.
What I always find interesting to see, how chimpansees can think in options. You see it how their playing (using boxes, tires, toys in all possible ways) and how they solve little puzzles to get food (turning, using tools, do it together).
Amazing! I always wonder about the real difference on animal thinking compared to human thinking, there is much we still don´t know, if we compared what we knew ten years ago there have been big changes. Ra is a human exclusive meta program, but focusing on the animal way of thinking it is amazing to see it and what it calls my attention is that animals can learn at least a part of human language and behaviors which always makes me curious.
Hi Elmar,
I read your post (rather late, ha!) and I really liked the way you made those observations and conclusions based on MPs. More interestingly [and actually not surprising] is that Ra is a typical human MP. I looked at the other MPs and wondered what other MPs could be specific for humans (and not animals).
I thought about Ex and considered that it could be used in your example of the ants and wasps, whereby the ‘workers’ demonstrate Ex with regards to the values of the ‘queen-bee’!
Then I thought about Elc. My conclusion is that Elc would be a typical human MP. What’s your take on this?
Of course, the essence is which MPs animals specifically demonstrate with their behaviour much rather than which is typical human and which is not. However, it is a nice thought:)
Thanks!
Regards, Richard.
De rapportage van MindSonar ziet er geweldig uit. Mooie grafieken (ook van Graves). Per programma een duidelijke uitleg met een thermometer en een uitleg over de tegengestelden. Wat ik prettig vind is dat je de rapportage in word kunt bewerken (u – je, kleur e.d.) en weer als pdf kunt opslaan.
I liked very much the discussion about how animals use meta programs and we use them all the time, there is always a strategy in everything we do during the day and even when basic things, used to survive can illustrate the use of meta programs it is amazing how on higher demand chores you can see how everything becomes more complex, but it is always the same principle.